Comments on: Bowdoin to Award Three Honorary Degrees at Commencement http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/bowdoin-to-award-three-honorary-degrees-at-commencement/ A repository for Bowdoin news archives Wed, 14 Nov 2018 20:25:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.1.11 By: Francis http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/bowdoin-to-award-three-honorary-degrees-at-commencement/comment-page-1/#comment-122666 Wed, 25 Apr 2018 16:52:59 +0000 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/?p=144650#comment-122666 I need to read more about Susan Rice, maybe there is more to the award. Honesty should be celebrated. Chimamanda is a great writer but one who takes the feminism fight too much. In her fight, one can sense bitterness.

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By: John Noyes '64 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/bowdoin-to-award-three-honorary-degrees-at-commencement/comment-page-1/#comment-122558 Wed, 11 Apr 2018 19:37:22 +0000 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/?p=144650#comment-122558 “honor”, “honorary”, “honesty”…. and Susan Rice somehow fits? New low for Bowdoin.

If award meant to provoke, well done.

Cheap honorary degree does not do a thing to erase her legacy.

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By: Peter F Healey ' 73 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/bowdoin-to-award-three-honorary-degrees-at-commencement/comment-page-1/#comment-122543 Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:44:57 +0000 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/?p=144650#comment-122543 Like many Alums who were recently informed of Susan Rice being selected for an Honorary degree at Commencement, I was incredulous. Sure on paper she is most accomplished having attended the National Cathedral School, Stanford, Oxford and held numerous top level diplomatic jobs in various Democratic Administrations. She also has strong ties to Maine having spent her early life in the Portland area and where her parents I believe still reside.

My problem is that she is an inveterate liar, she is lacking in judgement and she has been the architect of bad foreign policy. Of all the people you could choose to single out to receive an Honorary Degree and to hold before the graduating Seniors as a shining light to inspire and emulate, she is NOT the one.

As a refresher, while serving as Undersecretary of African Affairs, she lied about the 1998 attacks on the Kenyan and Tanzanian Embassies as not being of terrorist origin, so as not to undermine misguided US policy re acknowledging a terrorist presence in Africa. You may also recall Osama Bin Laden was located in the Sudan and targeted for elimination around this time (three years before the destruction of the World Trade Center), yet Susan Rice voiced strong objections to taking him out.

Her performance in September 2012 on the five national Sunday morning talk shows where she presented false talking points of how in Benghazi the loss of Ambassador Stevens and three Navy Seals was all because of an anti-Muslim video that stirred up the locals has been utterly disproven as premeditated lies. Documents show she was prepped by Ben Rhodes and David Plouffe on her talking points despite the real truth being already known, all to make the Administration look good on its failed Libya policy.

Rice went on the talk shows in May 2014 to sell to the American public the Bowe Bergdahl exchange for four high level Taliban leaders. She argued Bergdahl served with honor and distinction, despite undisputed facts he abandoned his post at a time of war. Oh … and the Taliban Leaders returned to the battlefield.

Comments made January 16, 2016 by Rice in an NPR interview that Syria had no chemical weapons were disproven by the Washington Post and even a Kerry exit memo to Obama eleven days before Rice’s interview admitted Syria was still using “undeclared” chemical weapons.

She also was out in front selling the Iranian Nuclear Deal with false statements about its evolution under a new moderate political reality, where in fact nothing had changed.

And most recently serving as National Security Advisor, Rice was at the center of the “unmasking” of Trump campaign operatives, not for National security concerns, but for purely Political motives. More to come on this I’m sure and which may bubble up inconveniently around the time of Commencement.

I am disappointed, embarrassed and extremely agitated the College has decided to recognize such a person of questionable morality, who does not know right from wrong and for whom the ends justify the means however questionable. Is this behavior acceptable to the College? Why hold her to be an example to inspire and emulate for our graduating Senior Class. Is that what we want them to be?
Most agitated and disappointed,
Peter Healey ’73

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By: Jim Hurt '92 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/bowdoin-to-award-three-honorary-degrees-at-commencement/comment-page-1/#comment-122527 Fri, 06 Apr 2018 13:10:37 +0000 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/?p=144650#comment-122527 Great call giving Ambassador Rice an honorary degree. ‘Nough said.

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By: Brian Barron- 75 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/bowdoin-to-award-three-honorary-degrees-at-commencement/comment-page-1/#comment-122511 Wed, 04 Apr 2018 13:02:40 +0000 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/?p=144650#comment-122511 What is guessed as a bunch of old white men referenced in a response above is a bigoted and racist statement indicative of a narrow minded individual. Is this the product of a Bowdoin education? President Rose should consider whether the College is educating or indoctrinating.

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By: Peter Henri Dragonas, '59, M D http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/bowdoin-to-award-three-honorary-degrees-at-commencement/comment-page-1/#comment-122504 Tue, 03 Apr 2018 03:38:36 +0000 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/?p=144650#comment-122504 I am concerned with the burden placed into the hands of the good Citizens of The State of Maine. The financial cost of a visit to Maine by a politically unpopular and controversial figure will overburden all sectors of this states security and financial resources. The nomination of Susan Rice for an Honorary Degree seems very odd. It happens to coincide with her acceptance to join the Board of NETFLIX. This corporation that has a known record of supporting “The College” with serious financial funds. The CEO, Mr. Hastings is a Bowdoin College graduate. Barack Hussein Obama, Past POTUS is in direct talks with Hastings to use the stage of Netflix as a propaganda platform for Progressive Liberalism and Globalism. This is in direct contrast to the directive for “Critical Thinking in Undergraduate Education”. The continued imbalance of this mandate lies in the responsibility of both Administration and the Board of Trustees. According to press reports, he too is on the list to become a Netflix Board member. Susan Rice has not cleared the hurdles of her performance representing the majority Christians and Jews under her appointment to the United Nations by her former fellow mentor, Barack Obama. I find The Bowdoin anxious to draw the philosophy of Susan Rice directly into the classrooms of Our College, sending the “Mission and Promise of The College” away from a well earned and respected reputation. This work started when James Bowdoin, Governor of Massachusetts, signed the College Charter, when Maine was Massachusetts,two hundred & twenty five years ago . Bowdoin can not afford to show homage to an unpopular politician. Unfortunately, this experiment could jeopardize the participation of many loyal, and wiser alumni who have continued to give of their funds. The Alumni Mission has supported the best interests of today’s and tomorrow’s beneficiaries. “The College” is more important than any individual. To that, the Committee for Honorary Degrees needs to revisit this invitation. Time is of the essence as is the hopes of all Alumni to realize a united country serving the best interests of all Bowdoin graduates as they make historic contributions to “THE COMMON GOOD”. PHD, MD. PS: I am an “Independent” politically using my knowledge to look in both directions.

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By: Peter Rigby , "56" http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/bowdoin-to-award-three-honorary-degrees-at-commencement/comment-page-1/#comment-122502 Mon, 02 Apr 2018 19:06:33 +0000 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/?p=144650#comment-122502 It is hard to believe that Bowdoin would choose to honor such a politically divisive person with a record of dishonesty to the American people. Ms Rice is now on track for a Federal investigation into the unmasking of American Citizens and well could be indicted for resultant crimes. Could it be that the “deep family ties” to Bowdoin played a role here? In any event it makes my own decision about future support to Bowdoin problematic, given the Administration’s policies,politics and continued lack of political diversity in honorees,faculty and staff.

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By: Michael J Fiori '74 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/bowdoin-to-award-three-honorary-degrees-at-commencement/comment-page-1/#comment-122498 Mon, 02 Apr 2018 14:39:52 +0000 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/?p=144650#comment-122498 Three excellent choices! It is not about “Liberal vs Conservative” or any other specific “agenda” some of which is displayed in the criticism of Dr. Rice. It is about one’s unfaltering commitment to education, purpose, and endeavors that benefit humanity. For those who severely criticize I believe it speaks only of their personal philosophies that excludes those of others who might disagree. Not one among us are without fault or have not made poor decisions. Would those errors in our lives relegate us to inferior than others despite our good endeavors? I am thankful that Bowdoin can see clearly in these matters.

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By: Burroughs 72 / 73 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/bowdoin-to-award-three-honorary-degrees-at-commencement/comment-page-1/#comment-122494 Sat, 31 Mar 2018 18:12:11 +0000 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/?p=144650#comment-122494 Honorary degree for Ms. Rice? Near unbelievable and truly disturbing. If she’s not been indicted yet, I expect she soon will be. I had my doubts about the direction of the college when I read about the Mexican-party witch hunt in the mainstream media and several follow up articles in the press about “political correctness”, but this takes the cake. I guess I can’t see contributing any more money to an institution so misguided and/or politically motivated to “honor” Ms. Rice with a degree for the type of “service” she provided to this country. Gen. Chamberlain would be appalled.

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By: Edward Poole, Class of 1982. http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/bowdoin-to-award-three-honorary-degrees-at-commencement/comment-page-1/#comment-122488 Fri, 30 Mar 2018 18:13:17 +0000 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/?p=144650#comment-122488 Martin Gray above said it best. The selection of Dr. Susan Rice as an honorary degree recipient demeans the process and stains the reputation of the college. She lied to the American people about Benghazi, and Bowdoin should find a candidate with higher standards of integrity for this award. Much is yet to be revealed about her role in the unmasking of American citizens – her latest statement that “I leaked nothing to nobody” is insulting. I have to agree that this is political correctness, and does not permit a thoughtful discussion regarding her selection.

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By: Mac Campbell http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/bowdoin-to-award-three-honorary-degrees-at-commencement/comment-page-1/#comment-122487 Fri, 30 Mar 2018 15:36:21 +0000 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/?p=144650#comment-122487 I’ve never understood the purpose of awarding honorary degrees, but in Ms. Rice, Bowdoin could not have selected a more divisive and ethically challenged individual; a highly questionable and disappointing choice! And for the record Lee did NOT receive an honorary degree from The College, but appropriately Ulysses S. Grant did. Bowdoin did bestow an honorary degree on Jefferson Davis before the Civil War primarily due to his service in President Pierce’s (’24) cabinet; historically a choice that was later also embarrassing and divisive.

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By: Walter Gans http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/bowdoin-to-award-three-honorary-degrees-at-commencement/comment-page-1/#comment-122486 Fri, 30 Mar 2018 13:51:35 +0000 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/?p=144650#comment-122486 In future comments should be sought by the college / committee BEFORE not after the selection has been made. What otherwise is the point?

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By: James Nichols http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/bowdoin-to-award-three-honorary-degrees-at-commencement/comment-page-1/#comment-122485 Fri, 30 Mar 2018 13:34:30 +0000 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/?p=144650#comment-122485 Critics of the selection of Susan Rice for this honor are really arguing for a conservative veto power over the choice of honorary degree recipients – their own misguided version of “policical correctness”. Let’s bear in mind that freedom of speech is only meaningful (and difficult) when one does not agree with the content.

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By: Mitchel Jurasek '21 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/bowdoin-to-award-three-honorary-degrees-at-commencement/comment-page-1/#comment-122484 Fri, 30 Mar 2018 13:31:11 +0000 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/?p=144650#comment-122484 I am very happy that Susan Rice will be a recipient of an honorary degree. It makes me sad to see what I can only guess are a bunch of old, white men degrading the contributions she has made to this country. We should be proud to recognize an outstanding black female this year. Furthermore, I think a majority of students graduating and attending will be pleased with this and they are the ones who really should have a say.

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By: Scott http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/bowdoin-to-award-three-honorary-degrees-at-commencement/comment-page-1/#comment-122483 Fri, 30 Mar 2018 12:54:46 +0000 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/?p=144650#comment-122483 What’s up, P Bears? OK, look. The JFK Library honored George HW Bush with it’s Profile of Courage Award even though he famously couldn’t remember where he was on Nov 22, 1963, and all that that implies when we come to find out his amnesia was caused by phoning in misleading tips to the FBI for the CIA. So what if Bowdoin’s honor is corrupt? It’s only a small part of what the American culture has become with the elephant of National Security in the room. Talk about “The Danger of a Single Narrative”!!!

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By: Brian Barron- 75 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/bowdoin-to-award-three-honorary-degrees-at-commencement/comment-page-1/#comment-122482 Fri, 30 Mar 2018 11:05:47 +0000 http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/?p=144650#comment-122482 The selection of Susan Rice is an affront to all members of the Bowdoin community. Ties to the College are not relevant. Honesty and character are. It is a fact that Susan Rice lied to the American people regarding the Benghazi fiasco as she was well aware the attack was a coordinated terrorist effort and not the spontaneous reaction to a video. Bowdoin has joined the ever growing list of politically correct institutions that cast truth and integrity aside. Shamefull.

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